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Jeff Hawkins is a Web Guru, Tall Tale Tech Writer and Short Order Cook at Monster Highway Cafe! from Middletown, Va. (The Center of the Known Universe)
Question: Why pligg adds extra characters to submitted URLs?
Answer: provided by jhawkin 153 days ago
- 0 + Out tracking is still on the links I just looked at. You may need to wait for the cache to flush before you judge that one.

And it may be that you'll need to do a 'edit and re-save' to rid the story of the 'out' redirection code.

Try both ideas (patience and edit/resave) before you rule this out.
Question: Speeding up or Reducing the load of RSS import
Answer: provided by jhawkin 152 days ago
- 0 + We probably should touch on 'RSS etiquette' when pulling feeds somewhere in the documents.

Feeds shouldn't be pulled too often or the host server load goes up. I set my feed imports to two hours minimum or more depending on how often the site updates.

The providing host can IP block anyone requesting feeds too often.

Also, some feeds provide the full article (probably accidentally). The RSS module could use a way to shorten those descriptions and summaries. That's not good behavior to repost a whole article from someone else's site even though their feed provided it. They probably have no idea.

Doesn't seem to be a problem here but people who allow posting of large 'blogging' style articles or blog on their Pligg sites themselves, allowing huge articles, could wind up with a problem there.

Most sites that provide RSS feeds don't realize other sites may pull their content including images. I haven't experienced any issues with this myself, most sites appreciate what I'm doing. But the image 'thing' haunts me some. Pligg doesn't show the included images but can.

My WordPress systems do show images but most of those imports are affiliate feeds or otherwise 'in house'.

I mention the WordPress stuff as just an aside. I don't expect any WordPress support here but I'm slowly working on more integration of WordPress and Pligg as I go. So, WordPress is very important to my Pligg future plans.
Question: Speeding up or Reducing the load of RSS import
Answer: provided by jhawkin 152 days ago
- 0 + Your answer to html entities helped me as that was the fix needed for that issue.

The few times a URL appears in the titles are usually because the article's title contained a URL in the original story (most of those stories came off feeds from Facebook Pages). You wind up with a URL in the title which doesn't hurt anything except the title usually doesn't go to that URL depending on the story settings.

I just do a quick edit to fix that when I see it. The url usually winds up in the tags also as the RSS module creates pretty accurate tags from the title and content.

As to the rest of the module. It works great for what I'm doing. One more issue that isn't a biggie but sometimes there are Hashtags in the title (which may have not even existed back when that module was developed). It might be a good idea to always place any hashtag into the tags field. Pligg usually does that by default but not always.

And sometimes a feed will stop the process when the magpie parser chokes on a poorly formed feed. That stops the rest of the import from that point on.

When I see that happen I usually run it through "The Feed Sanitizer" and use that program's derived URL from then on which cures the problem.

It might be the simple pie parser could run it because most feed readers seem to handle those feeds fine. Maybe a automatic switch from one parser to the other or something... I don't know. MagpieRSS is a great parser, I'd rather see it stay! I just wonder if SimplePie might work better on the failed imports if there's a way to catch that and trigger the switch..

Finally, a way to stop or suspend the individual feed when there's a problem without losing that site's settings. Right now I set the 'time' to 1000 hours instead of my usual 2, 4, or 6 settings. The incoming feed usually corrects itself in a few days.

Documentation could sure use some work. RSS import setup in Pligg isn't intuitive (it's not real intuitive in WordPress either). Once you've done it a couple dozen times though it gets easier.

Some info on using 'extra fields' and the RSS import might help.

Hope some of this info helps you figure out where to look and where to start.
Answer: provided by jhawkin 158 days ago
- 0 + Those private group messages need to be filtered out of the results somehow.
Answer: provided by jhawkin 157 days ago
- 0 + Yeah, I don't know why I said messages
Question: Module to allow publishing of stories (body) with images?
Answer: provided by jhawkin 160 days ago
- 0 + Someone else asked if anyone could install the CK Editor into Pligg. You might take a look at that or Tiny MCE. I'm sure it's either something that could be done or has already been done with Tiny MCE. I think there was a thread somewhere on the old forum. That might get you there. Google 'Pligg Tiny MCE' and here's a link to the CK Editor post but I don't see any replies there.
Question: Image posting rules? Is it legal to grab images from an article or site and add to my post?
Answer: provided by jhawkin 160 days ago
- 0 + You should be somewhat careful with images. They are protected by copyright and sometimes the images are from a stock photo library which requires payment to re-use their image.

That said, most sources don't mind some use of a smaller image or a screen shot of their website to illustrate their snippet of content appearing on your site. They get a good link back to their website in exchange for the post.

I've been in this game for quite a while and have only received one complaint in all those years and that was not even my website.

The person complaining had no concept of 'fair use', didn't understand the idea that a photographer has a certain right to use his own works and didn't even realize my website had nothing to do with the image in question which was on another website.

They were upset about protecting their Trademark but didn't even know how to find the right website and owner, complain to them, and how to send a cease and desist order if necessary.

Anyway, run this by good legal counsel but..... I don't sweat it.

Do give credit where credit is due when you can. Use thumbnail or small images and don't allow much more than a short 'blurb' in your post form.

If you allow anyone to post then you might also look at running the story moderation module. A quick look at each post is all you need from the admin panel and the referring link is there so you can look at the article.

If in doubt 'leave it out'!
Question: Is it possible to embed pligg into wordpress pages
Answer: provided by jhawkin 161 days ago
- 1 + I've thought of a similar idea myself (Pligg content using WordPress as a container) involving a second instance of Pligg where the only output is the content that appears in Pligg's main left column for the various pages.

You can run two instances of Pligg that talk to the same database without any problems that I've run across. One of those would be Pligg with all it's 'bells and whistles' while the other would be the modified Pligg that only deals with the left column content.

In your case you want to use the Groups feature. My only thoughts on Pligg Groups and WordPress is.... you might want to look at running Buddy Press on WordPress and maybe develop a plugin or module that makes Pligg Groups and BuddyPress work hand in hand.

You'd probably need The Pligg WordPress User Bridge to sync user logins. The User Bridge is an unsupported module but does work. They use it on this page.

As to displaying Pligg content inside WordPress you might look at this WordPress Plugin
Question: Is it possible to embed pligg into wordpress pages
Answer: provided by jhawkin 160 days ago
- 0 + Well, I'd probably run with the WordPress module I suggested and excise the left column content I wanted into the WordPress Pages using the stripped down Pligg instance as I mentioned earlier.

The Buddy Press / Pligg Groups lashup was just a further suggestion.
Question: Is it possible to embed pligg into wordpress pages
Answer: provided by jhawkin 160 days ago
- 0 + I'm reading what you're saying but I'm under the impression that you want WordPress to render the header, probably the navigation, any sidebar content you do want and the footer. And you want the actual individual page content from Pligg to show in WordPress' content area. Right?

You really don't want the WordPress header, sidebar, and footer inside of Pligg's content do you???

Pligg's default templates place the actual page content in the left hand column. A majority of WordPress themes also place their main content in the left hand column also.

The WordPress module I provided a link to provides a way to run PHP in a page or post in that page or post's content area. This should give you a starting point for what you want.

I'd try it myself but I'm pretty sure it will work unless there's some issue like having the Pligg outside of the calling website's reach and I know once I get started on that I'll not be able to stop until it is perfect enough for production.

I have way too much work to get to this week to even think about unless I find I need for this on my or one of my clients sites.

Now, if you'd be happy with just a widget somewhere in your WordPress site (sidebar or content area) I will recommend this which I have used inside Pligg and WordPress. This turns any RSS Feed from any site that generates RSS into a viewable widget. Pligg generates a decent RSS Feed and that widget is configurable. You might give that consideration! Link below.